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	<title>Comments on: Rigor in reviews, in writing, and in librarianship generally</title>
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		<title>By: Librarified &#187; You need a master&#8217;s degree for that? In defense of the MLS.</title>
		<link>http://www.librarified.net/2010/04/28/rigor-in-reviews-in-writing-and-librarianship-generally/comment-page-1/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Librarified &#187; You need a master&#8217;s degree for that? In defense of the MLS.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 02:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] foundation In my earlier post on the need for more rigor in the profession, I mentioned the exclusive body of knowledge that we lay claim to as part of being professionals. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] foundation In my earlier post on the need for more rigor in the profession, I mentioned the exclusive body of knowledge that we lay claim to as part of being professionals. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gretchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gretchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, I see where you&#039;re coming from, and I think that maybe as an artist or a consumer what you&#039;re saying makes sense. But part of a librarian&#039;s job is to select books for the library&#039;s collection and if you can&#039;t find reviews for a book, you don&#039;t know if it&#039;s because everyone hated it and is playing nice and not saying so or if it&#039;s because no one&#039;s read it or if it&#039;s because no one&#039;s bothered to review it.

I think that personally I&#039;d have a hard time writing a negative review for the very reasons that you mentioned (especially turning someone away from something they might wind up liking) and I recognize that art and music and literature are subjective, but as a professional, I need reviews that tell both sides of the story. There are only so many books we can order and we need a way to sort out what&#039;s going to make it into the collection and what isn&#039;t.

So someone needs to be willing to write constructively critical reviews, and I nominate librarians. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, I see where you&#8217;re coming from, and I think that maybe as an artist or a consumer what you&#8217;re saying makes sense. But part of a librarian&#8217;s job is to select books for the library&#8217;s collection and if you can&#8217;t find reviews for a book, you don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s because everyone hated it and is playing nice and not saying so or if it&#8217;s because no one&#8217;s read it or if it&#8217;s because no one&#8217;s bothered to review it.</p>
<p>I think that personally I&#8217;d have a hard time writing a negative review for the very reasons that you mentioned (especially turning someone away from something they might wind up liking) and I recognize that art and music and literature are subjective, but as a professional, I need reviews that tell both sides of the story. There are only so many books we can order and we need a way to sort out what&#8217;s going to make it into the collection and what isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>So someone needs to be willing to write constructively critical reviews, and I nominate librarians. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 20:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Erin To clarify, I don&#039;t think that there&#039;s always something good to say. I just think that there&#039;s so much art being produced that let&#039;s ignore the bad stuff, and spend time concentrating on the stuff that&#039;s awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Erin To clarify, I don&#8217;t think that there&#8217;s always something good to say. I just think that there&#8217;s so much art being produced that let&#8217;s ignore the bad stuff, and spend time concentrating on the stuff that&#8217;s awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.librarified.net/2010/04/28/rigor-in-reviews-in-writing-and-librarianship-generally/comment-page-1/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent stuff, as usual Gretchen.  Jim has an interesting point....and maybe i&#039;m just a perpetual optimist, but I think he&#039;s correct -- there&#039;s always something good to say. 

but, on the other hand, I remember that journal article we had to read for collection development.  And it was awful!  As were many of the sessions we attended at PLA.  So i agree with you as well -- lower standards are helping no one. 

Anywho.  Interesting stuff to ponder.
- Erin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent stuff, as usual Gretchen.  Jim has an interesting point&#8230;.and maybe i&#8217;m just a perpetual optimist, but I think he&#8217;s correct &#8212; there&#8217;s always something good to say. </p>
<p>but, on the other hand, I remember that journal article we had to read for collection development.  And it was awful!  As were many of the sessions we attended at PLA.  So i agree with you as well &#8212; lower standards are helping no one. </p>
<p>Anywho.  Interesting stuff to ponder.<br />
- Erin</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During my year of writing up-and-coming listings and the occasional feature for the music section of one of Portland&#039;s dailies, I actually came to the conclusion that (like Believer magazine) I was no longer going to do negative reviews, unless it was for a nationally, well-established band. 

These were music reviews, but my reasoning was two-fold:

1)There&#039;s SO MUCH MUSIC out there. That meant that in any given week, with any show I was assigned to, I could find something good about one or more of the performers.

2) I did not want to be responsible for steering people away from a local band&#039;s show.  I am not so arrogant as to think that people would search my listings and go to shows based on what I said. However, if someone was on the fence, and this was a new band looking desperately for an audience, I didn&#039;t want to be the final thing in the &quot;con&quot; column that kept a potential audience member away.

So I guess this is really just replying to the beginning of your post, but I actually feel like rather than asking critics of a certain gender to be harsher, we should be asking everyone to not bother writing about something that you hate. Like I said, there&#039;s so much out there, and I don&#039;t see the point of promoting negatively when you can definitely find something that you want to RAVE about, to tell EVERYONE YOU KNOW that THIS IS AWESOME. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://fascinated.fm/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;That guy from Hype Machine&lt;/a&gt; has a tagline of &quot;I wake up in the morning to get people excited about music.&quot; I think that any critic should wake up in the morning to get people excited about what they are reviewing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During my year of writing up-and-coming listings and the occasional feature for the music section of one of Portland&#8217;s dailies, I actually came to the conclusion that (like Believer magazine) I was no longer going to do negative reviews, unless it was for a nationally, well-established band. </p>
<p>These were music reviews, but my reasoning was two-fold:</p>
<p>1)There&#8217;s SO MUCH MUSIC out there. That meant that in any given week, with any show I was assigned to, I could find something good about one or more of the performers.</p>
<p>2) I did not want to be responsible for steering people away from a local band&#8217;s show.  I am not so arrogant as to think that people would search my listings and go to shows based on what I said. However, if someone was on the fence, and this was a new band looking desperately for an audience, I didn&#8217;t want to be the final thing in the &#8220;con&#8221; column that kept a potential audience member away.</p>
<p>So I guess this is really just replying to the beginning of your post, but I actually feel like rather than asking critics of a certain gender to be harsher, we should be asking everyone to not bother writing about something that you hate. Like I said, there&#8217;s so much out there, and I don&#8217;t see the point of promoting negatively when you can definitely find something that you want to RAVE about, to tell EVERYONE YOU KNOW that THIS IS AWESOME. </p>
<p><a href="http://fascinated.fm/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/fascinated.fm/?referer=');">That guy from Hype Machine</a> has a tagline of &#8220;I wake up in the morning to get people excited about music.&#8221; I think that any critic should wake up in the morning to get people excited about what they are reviewing.</p>
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